Request FEC to Verify Obama’s Eligibility for President
Phil Orenstein • August 8, 2008 • Uncategorized
Candidate Barack Obama is running for the highest office in the nation and has not met one of the key prerequisites: to provide a certified birth certificate to prove he is a natural born citizen. According to Article II, Section 2, Clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States:
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
In my last blog on the issue I summarized the censorship and attempts to foil the investigation into Obama’s true birth certificate. In answer to the media cover-up and harassment by the thugs of the Obama campaign doggedly trying to stifle the issue, as well as the bureaucratic run-around he endured, Professor Mitchell Langbert has posted a public petition requesting the Federal Elections Commission verify the eligibility of Barack Obama’s candidacy for President.
The petition reads as follows:
The signers of this petition request the Federal Elections Commission and Mr. Donald McGahan, FEC chairman, to take responsibility to verify the eligibility of Mr. Barack H. Obama to be President of the United States. Mr. Obama has refused to produce a physical certified, stamped copy of his birth certificate. An electronically-displayed image displayed by his official campaign website has been alleged to be a forgery. We request that the FEC require Mr. Obama to authorize the FEC to obtain an official copy of his birth certificate and if he does not produce the authorization that the FEC reject his registration as a presidential candidate; that the FEC not monitor his campaign finances during the primary or election; that votes cast for Mr. Obama and reported by the states’ boards of elections not be recorded and displayed by the FEC; and that Mr. Obama be considered in violation of 2 USC 437g for filing a false statement on FEC Form 2, as specified on that form.
The petition has just been initiated today, and already in a few hours hundreds and hundreds have signed. After enough people have signed, Dr. Langbert will send the petition to the FEC and Mr. Donald McGahan, FEC chairman. After a significant number have signed, he will also submit the petition to the national media so they will recognize that this request is the voice of a large segment of the citizenry of America speaking up about this issue, not just a small right-wing fringe.
As candidate for the office of chief lawmaker of the United States, one must adhere to the law of Article II of our Constitution, as numerous lesser public officials are forced to do so. If candidates for Congressional or state public offices do not stand up to the most demanding electoral scrutiny, they may be kicked off the ballot or entirely denied access to public office. Almost every single candidate is legally scrutinized in this most scrupulous manner. Candidate Gonzalo Policarpio running for Congress in my own Congressional District has just been thrown off the ballot on the Republican line for signatures on his petitions of people who moved out of the District or are deceased. Another local candidate, Peter Koo for State Senate is now fighting a court battle challenging the allegation that his legal residence is outside his Senatorial District. If that is proven to be the case, he will be eliminated from the ballot. If lesser officials have to go through such intense legal scrutiny for public office, why shouldn’t the candidate for the highest office in the nation be required to follow the letter of the law? It is our right as American citizens, in spite of the media black-out and bureaucratic dysfunction of our government, to request the FEC investigation into Obama’s eligibility to be President. We have to certify that the rules should not bend for anyone.
Addendum:
I just received an email from Mairi requesting help for a petition drive for adult residents of the State of Illinois demanding Obama produce documentation of citizenship. The Illinois petition reads as follows:
We, the undersigned residents of the State of Illinois, hereby demand that Barack Hussein Obama produce documentation of American citizenship in the form of a legal birth certificate. It is our understanding that Mr. Obama has heretofore refused to produce such a document. The residency requirement for qualification as a United States Senator includes United States citizenship. Without documentation, under United States law, Barack Hussein Obama may not legally qualify to represent the citizens of the State of Illinois. By signing this petition, we request that the State of Illinois investigate Mr. Obama’s eligibility to serve in the Senate and make his birth certificate public immediately, and that with continued coverup of documentation, we demand Mr. Obama’s immediate removal from the Senate.
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Keep up the good work.
He is hiding something.
I believe that you have made one very basic mistake here, in your first sentence:
While the Constitution requires that the president be a natural-born citizen, it makes no mention of having to provide a birth certificate to prove it.
The framers never thought that such would be an issue. But one thing is very obvious: if Barack Hussein Obama were to be disqualified on this basis, our friends on the left would look at this as some form of cheating, regardless of whether it actually is or not. Our friends on the left have accepted Mr Obama as a natural-born citizen, period, whether such is technically true or not.
This is one of those cases in which perception really does trump reality.
Besides, if Mr Obama could somehow be disqualified, then the Democrats would nominate Hillary Clinton. Ughhh! That would be even worse.
I would like to know THE TRUTH regarding Barack Obama’s eligibility to be President under our U.S. Constitution.
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Folks, most anybody who’s given the matter serious thought knows that an e-mail petition is worthless because there is no way to verify the authenticity of the so-called signers — actually people whose names are typed, not signed, on the petition.
But I appreciate very much the irony: Here’s a proposed petition to reqiuest that a man’s birth certificate, of which there is a purported copy available on line, be authenticated. And yet the very petition demanding this can’t be authenticated.
Rich.
out him!
Hello.
Please keep america safe. I do not trust Barrack Hussein Obama! God Bless America. Amen
Matt Luck
My opinion is linked to that of “trust”. Obama has revealed several anti-American actions-questionable on trusting this guy:
1.) Did not place his hand over his heart at the Pledge of Allegiance and did not speak it (after that episode, he does now-he’s covering himself).
2.) Can’t prove it, by an authentic birth certificate, that he is a natural born US citizen. Why? Why can’t he produce it? Trust-hmmm.
3.) He voted against (with 34 other Senators/33 DEMs), the Immigration Reform bill S.2611 that contained language about specifying English as the Official Language of the US. Trust-really can’t trust a man that votes against this Bill – go ahead look it up and read it; Senate Bill 2611.
4.) You can tell a lot of a person’s character by the friends he associates with. Look at Obama’s friends – that should tell you something. Go ahead, Google it and start reading.
All US citizen’s – do your own research-become knowledgeable. Read on the Internet and find truth in what Obama really stands for. I am unaffiliated. But, I got to tell you, after I have read all sides of the issues, all sides (hundreds of hours of reading), Obama lacks my trust. Read for yourself and just don’t vote for a guy because he’s not the other guy. That is a very stupid and uninformed way to vote. You really want this guy to be our Commander-in-Chief? I say no!
You guys are just ignorant fools! Stupid fools, you should be looking for real issues, not some BS scandals.
Obama is bad news for the United States.
Every cite on the web has the same copy of Obama’s supposive birth certificate with the certificate registration number blacked out. If it is a true copy {which it is not} why not give the number to be verified in the official State of Hawaii registars office? The FEC can not be that stupid to ask the same question and demand an immediate answer. The FBI needs to get involved in this right away.
This is a reply to “SK on October 6th, 2008″:
I am not an ignorant fool, a stupid fool or any other kind of fool, except maybe responding to your post qualifies me as such!
It is no BS scandal that Barack Hussein Obama refuses to turn over evidence of birth in the United States.
Did you even know, SK, that being a natural born citizen of the United States was a requirement to hold the office of the President of the United States? Doubtful……….and sad………….
You know even the shoddiest carnival ride has a height requirement. If you are not tall enough you cannot ride. And that makes the rest of the ride obsolete, no matter how cool it may be and all the fun and meaningful things it provides are pointless.
So if cannot reach the bar of proving being a natural born citizen, your good “socialistic” intention don’t mean squat.
Get out of the line and let a more viable candidate take your place.
CHECK THIS OUT: Barack Obama is not a legal U.S. natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between December 24, 1952, to November 13, 1986. Federal Law requires that the office of President requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. Citizen parents. This is what exempts John McCain, though he was born in the US Panama Canal Zone US Law very clearly states: If only one parent is a U.S. Citizen at the time of one’s birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for minimum ten years, five of which must be after the age of 16. That Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. Citizen is a fact.
Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born. This means even though she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen of Hawaii being a territory); his mother fails the test for at-least-5-years- prior-to Barack Obama’s birth, but-after-age-16.
In essence, Mother alone is not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, 2 years elapsed from his mother turning 16 to the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18. His mother would have needed to be 16 + 5 = 21 years old at the time of
Barack Obama’s birth for him to be a natural-born citizen.
The Constitution clearly declares: Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President.
Though Barack Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 10, any other information does not matter because his mother is the one who must fulfill the requirement to be a U.S.. Citizen for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5 of those years being after age 16.
Further, Obama may have had to remain in the USA for some time frame to protect any citizenship he might have had, rather than living in Indonesia . This is very clear-cut and a glaring violation of U.S. Election law.
So sorry. I accidentally deleted the last reply, on the urgency of producing BO’s birth certificate. Please re-post.
Well…I want to know who does make sure that all candidates who run for the highest office in the US are qualified, per our constitution, to run. It appears, that none of us knows. This is in reference to the law suit filed by Berg and the FEC.
Does our country allow anyone to run? In any company I know of, people must qualify themselves for a job. You must even prove who you are when stopped by law enforcement or to get a driver’s license. In most states you are supposed to show proof that you are the person about to vote. Who makes sure we know whom we are voting for? Is there nobody out there that even checks? There should be no need for Berg to have filed this lawsuit if our country has already done their job and done background checks and verified documents. However, my feeling is that the highest position in our country, the United States of American, can be held by anyone who wants to run…at least it appears that way, if they can obtain enough voters to vote for them. This is the craziest thing I’ve ever heard of.
Why is there not full disclosure, by both parties, of all documents submitted to the public? We should be entitled to know who we are voting for.
What department, what person, is responsible for this information if it isn’t the FEC?
“Moreover,” the motion reads, “even if Berg had standing to raise the constitutional eligibility issue, the Commission should be dismissed as a party to this case because it has no oversight over the Constitution’s Presidential Qualifications Clause.”
I am as confused as Betty Crisler, in response to the lawsuit Berg v Obama, the FEC has asked to be removed from the suit as it is not their resposibility to verify a candidates eligibility to run for President. The FEC only verifies a candidates eligibility to participate in public funding, which we know Obama broke his campaign promise and opted out of. Now, maybe we know why he did. The FBI has also previously stated that they do NO background check on a Presidential candidate that is already a member of Congress. So, who actually verifies? Is this one of those situations where everyone thinks the other guy is responsible, where in fact, no one is?
Get Hussein Obama out of our future…for good
I just posted an article on my website about the issue of Obama’s citizenship.
What is happening in our country that our government is unwilling to act on behalf of it’s citizens? Should The Federal Election Commission have demanded that a legitimate birth certificate document be presented from all of the candidates before anyone cast a vote? It appears that we only have one law abiding candidate that has produced undisputed proof of illegibility as a U.S. citizen. If they have it, then there is no reason for them not to offer it to the public.
http://www.readwhatisee.com
He is a disgrace to all of the people that have died to protect our freedom to vote and our country. I also saw an article where he refuses to pledge the flag of the United States and a photo was posted with the article showing him not pledging the flag while all the other people (including Hillary Clinton) where indeed pledging the flag.
So it makes even more sense where his loyalty lies. its not here in the U.S.A. So between his shoddy friends and his pile of lies that keep growing, With his policies he wants to implement on our lives and our future, I’m not surprised that he is not one of ours! and by the way this is not a democrat or a republican thing it’s an AMERICAN THING!
Thank you to democracy-project for bringing some clarity to this issue. No invective needed – the law is the law – irrespective of how it is enforced. To the responder who claims that the left believes him to be a natural born citizen and therefore he is, perception is not the law; that’s why it is written. As far as being left with Hillary, so be it. If John Mccain was proven to be ineligible for the office, the same would apply. If we apply the constitution on a situational basis, we cease to be a nation; our framework will be lost. I urge everyone to call / write their legislators and members of the media. A comment is made that email signatures are un-enforceable – agreed – therefore if nothing is done soon petitions will need to be circulated throughout the country – this will take time but a defacto resolution is better than none at all
Why can’t President Bush call for Obama’s birth certificate? Can’t Bush override all the red tape?
Many of us have to supply transcripts from the Universities we graduated from in order to obtain specific jobs. Why is it not required for the top position in the U.S. to submit tanscripts?
..also, besides the issue of whether he was a natural born citizen….
when he moved to Indonesia with his family, Indonesia does not recognize dual citizenship…and all of his school papers indicated that his citizenship was Indonesian. If he did become an Indonesian citizen (as the papers imply) then when did he have his U.S. citizenship reinstated? ..or was that required? I cannot believe that one of the first responses to a person submitting to become a canidate for President would not be to verify eligibility. It is disgraceful.
If Obama is a natural born citizen, why won’t he provide indusputable proof of the fact?
Did you know?… There are many ways that verification of e-mails can be linked to a valid user… The best way is to use the paid e-mail from the original service provider. Unfortunately, no one of us wants the junk stuff to flood our paid e-mail boxes… If I could be guarinteed my confidentiality without reprocussions, I would be happy to sign a petition online to ensure that Obama be made to provide the verification of his citizenship for all the people to see.
Isn’t it possible to file a Freedom of Information Act request with the FEC? I’m sure they would be required to submit if they have the information. If they don’t, then an immediate lawsuit forcing them to obtain the information should be filed. Since all similar lawsuits filed by private citizens have been summarily dismissed, the FEC should be forced to file. But, I’m no lawyer.
Dana, respondant # 2.
You must be very young, uninformed or have never done any genealogical research. There is no requirement in the constitution of a birth certificate to qualify for President of the United States because BIRTH CERTIFICATES WERE NOT ISSUED BEFORE 1915. Before that year, the family Bibles, Church records, Court records, etc. were the only source of such information. Lets all promise ourselves we will accept personal responsibilitiy to become better INFORMED citizens.
President Bush can clear all of this up by using an executive order before the electoral college meets . The way in which the Hawaii governor is securing the birth certificate reminds me of the way George Wallace blocked a school house door in 1963. President George Bush needs to show leadership the same way President John F Kennedy did and order Governor Linda Lingle to give up the birth certificate to federal authorities
I think the Supreme Court, guardian of our Constitution, should IAW Article 2, Section 2 and without delay,obtain
a copy of Mr. Obama’s birth certificate to verify his
eligibility to be the next President of these United States of America. The question of whether Mr. Obama is
a Naturalized Citizen, and qualified is troublesome to
a large number of American citizens.
I understand if a person remains out of Country
for more then 5 years without revisiting, that
person jeopardize, or lost his citizenship. I
understand that Mr. Obama had lived out of
Country for more than 5 years.
Too many open questions for Mr. Obama to be President.
Give me this answer.
Where the hell do I go to sign the damned petition?
There is no link, no anything, to get there.
I’m a veteran and a certified citizen. But I can’t sign anything because I don’t live in Illinois?
This is a pile of crap. Give us a link where we can sign it. I’ll do it in ten milliseconds.
Go here to sign the public FEC petition:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Federal-Elections-Commssion/index.html
You guys have a lot of mangled information in regards to this case. I find it disturbing that you all are so eager- no, so desperate to believe every trashy rumor and half-truth circulating about Obama. Let’s get to the heart of the matter. Obama is a natural born citizen, by both the governor of Hawaii and their Board of Health. He was born on American soil, which gives him the right to run for president. Nothing and no one has required him to produce a birth certificate. Mr. Berg certainly has no authority to make these demands, and no judges have asked for the document directly. It is also worth noting that Berg, the lawyer in this case, has a sordid history in his own right. In 2003 and 2004 he sued the Bush administration for engineering the attacks on the World Trade Center, in effect accusing the administration of causing 9/11. This man is not a credible authority. His charges are frivilous and nonsensical, and he lacks any hard proof to back up his claims (if Mr. Obama was born in Kenya, where are the documents to prove that? Surely the most devestating evidence would be to produce a hard copy of a Kenyan birth certificate, and yet all Berg relies on is hearsay). Consider the source of your accusations before you jump on this boat.
Prove it. I thought you had to serve in the military in order to be president…..guess not
Why won’t Obama just tell the State of Hawaii to produce the bc for inspection? Surely Hawaii would comply with such a request.
From a different angle, so as not to get hung up on the bc per se: What does this issue say about Obama’s integrity, believability, and forthrightness? Does any of that matter? It matters a lot to me, and I find him lacking terribly in those departments.
The only things at stake here are Obama’s personal integrity and the integrity of the U.S. Constitution! I’m sure that Obama could prove that this has all been a silly misunderstanding.
How can we now believe Obama when he says anything? No involvement in the attempted sale of his U.S. Senate seat? No Obama conversations with the Illinois governor about his successor? Why believe any of that?
Mr Obama “Just Do It” Our country, Constitution and your legitimacy depend on it. You are harming our country by not doing this. I would consider my self the poorest of leaders if I did not do all possible to represent my country in the best way possible. “Just Do It,” and produce the birth certificate.
Here it is, February 15, 2009, and America still doesn’t know if the person living in the White House is illegimate or not.
This is outrageous. Everyone who is concerned that a coup has taken place should contact their U.S. senators and representative in Congress, and they should ask them to make a request to Obama that he prove that he is qualified under the Constitution to hold the office of president. Tell them you will not tolerate this any longer. If we inundate them with hard-copy letters, we may see some action.
What can I add to what has been already said here. I perceive Obama as a slick and narcissistic and having a problem with the truth , as in making all of those centristic statements during the campaigning and showing now that he is truly a socialist in wool’s clothing…
Well, IS he eligible or not?!
WHY DOESN’T ANYBODY KNOW IF THIS GUY WAS EVER “CERTIFIED” BY ANY AGENCY OR ELECTION COMMITTEE TO BE ELIGIBLE TO SERVE AS PRESIDENT???? HOW CAN THERE BE A REQUIREMENT, BUT NOBODY EVER VERIFIES WHETHER THE CANDIDATE MEETS THE REQUIREMENT??
Why are we taking so long to find out if this guy is really qualified for The President of The United States???.
If it is proved he is not qualified, will he have to refund all the money he and his wife have illegally spent?
Thanks
Dewitt Sims
The timing of Obama’s latest school children indoctrination speech is no coincidence. September 8, 2009 is meaningful to Obama for an entirely different reason. (See below.)
Something of Interest, posted elsewhere on the Net:
“Discovery hearing” re: Obama’s Kenyan BC, request for depositions of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Secretary of Defense Robert Gates scheduled for September 8th, 8am.
08/21/2009 44 MINUTES OF IN CHAMBERS ORDER by Judge David O. Carter: ORDER SETTING SEPTEMBER 8, 2009 HEARING ON MOTIONS: (See document for details.) In summary, the Court sets for hearing at 8:00 a.m. on September 8, 2009, (1) the Discovery Motion, (2) the Service Notice, and (3) the Ex Parte Application. All parties are ordered to be present.
The Clerk shall serve this minute order on all parties to the action. (rla) (Entered: 08/21/2009)
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So what were the results of the hearing of September 8, 2009 and why has this matter not been more highly publicized?????
Judge Lambert – time is up…you have stalled long enough.
We the people demand an answer!
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I really do think that Americans should pull together to arrest the fake president and show the world that we as a people will not stand for fraud in the white house.
Obama is the worst person alive. If he really was born in America then prove it stop letting the people be split over your citizenship.And well if he is not a legal president then arrest and punish him under treason.
So the ? is who is responsible because i know some were their is a person that their job is to make sure every one is on the up and up. Please send me a e-mail if you know who this person is or just what office is in charge of making sure the presidential candidates are legit.
Natural-born citizen
Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?
The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps. The Constitution authorizes the Congress to do create clarifying legislation in Section 5 of the 14th Amendment; the Constitution, in Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4, also allows the Congress to create law regarding naturalization, which includes citizenship.
Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:”
Anyone born inside the United States *
Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe
Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
* There is an exception in the law — the person must be “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.
Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President.
Again: with citation of sources
Natural-born citizen
Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?
The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps. The Constitution authorizes the Congress to do create clarifying legislation in Section 5 of the 14th Amendment; the Constitution, in Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4 also allows the Congress to create law regarding naturalization, which includes citizenship.
Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1409 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:”
Anyone born inside the United States *
Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe
Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
* There is an exception in the law — the person must be “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.
Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President.
Mount, Steve. “Constitutional Topic: Martial Law.” USConstitution.net. 30 Nov 2001. http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_mlaw.html (3 Dec 2001)